Submitted by robsafuto on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 16:23.
Back in the day (the mid-80s for example) when there were two divisions in the National League late season games against the Cubs typically meant something. I remember the Mets clinching the NL East on Sept. 17, 1986 (Yes I was there!) by beating the Cubbies.
When the divisions were expanded and the Cubs ended up in the Central division the Mets-Cubs rivalry ended and the Mets-Braves rivalry began. Well, it's been a long time coming but the Cubs are standing in the way of a Mets playoff berth once again. It's different this time because the Cubs have their division locked up and these games are just a precursor to the playoffs for them.
The Mets need to excel in this series (at least 3 of 4 wins) if they want to have a chance at a playoff spot. The Mets need to win at least five of the next seven if they want to extend the life of Shea Stadium (and the hopes of the fans) past next Sunday.
Submitted by sgtwarbucks on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 20:20.
Are you kidding me......???
I know that Johan gave one up this year to Seattle's pitcher (i was at Shea to witness THAT debacle) but of all the games and series of the year we didn't just need that one!
i'm not on the edge of a building, but i'm heading toward the elevator!
Tug Said it.....I believe it.....That settles it......
YA GOTTA BELIEVE
Submitted by sgtwarbucks on Thu, 09/25/2008 - 07:29.
Watching tonight's game i said to my wife "This game gives me agita", to which she replied "Then why do you watch it?"
Anybody got a snappy comeback that i could use? By the way, she's a Tigers fan....
Tug Said it.....I believe it.....That settles it......
YA GOTTA BELIEVE
Submitted by sgtwarbucks on Wed, 09/24/2008 - 23:20.
Anybody care to talk me off the ledge? I'm off the rest of the week, in anticipation of going to Shea with my buddy, meeting up with Rob and hoping that we see at least a Mets game that really means something! Even the weather looks to mess that up!!
After tonight's tough loss, we have to look at the statistics and the odds of the Mets even making the post season. Tied with the Brewers for the Wild Card, still 1.5 games behind the Phillies for the Division title. The team gave away the game, and quite possibly the season tonight.
That being said.....anybody...help?
Tug Said it.....I believe it.....That settles it......
YA GOTTA BELIEVE
When you've got a runner at 3rd and Wright, Delgado and Beltran to follow, you'd think it would be impossible NOT to score. This team continues to amaze in the number of ways it keeps losing the "unloseable" games.
That was a real heartbreaker. Still, this team has bounced back from some really bad losses this year. Let's hope they come back fired up tomorrow.
i am sitting in study hall in philly and i am having deja vu. the season isn't over yet, but losses like last night make it tough for me to think we have a chance. in the 7th, 8th, AND 9th inning we had a combined 6 runners in scoring position. in each of those innig swe had a guy on third with no outs. and in all those 3 innigns combined we scored one run. that is up there with all the numerous terrible losses we've had this season. absolutely awful. if we miss the playoffs by 1 game, i will absolutely hang myself. we have about a dozen games (stone cold serious, no exaggeration) which were nightnmarish losses we seemed to have well in hand. please pedro, be the younger version tonight and not the only mets starting pitcher who hasn't done great this year.
I was about to type "Pedro's last start as a met" in the title feild, but then i realized i was assuming we would miss the playoffs. shows how much confidence the past 2 weeks have given me, doesn't it? but regardless, i can't see the mets re-signing pedro after this year with the injuries and struggles he's had. he is our aldest and worst starting pitcher and it's time we tested the market and/or tried out a young arm. that's hwo we got pelfrey and maine, by spot starting a young guy, and perhaps it's niese's time to shine next year. unless pedro looks great in this game AND HIS PLAYOFF STARTS the mets should not resign him.
and boy is this game huge. playing the red hot cubs with the red hot harden in a nigh the phillies are off. win here and we are just a game back from the phillies. for the first time in a while, we have SOLE control of whether we move up in the standings or not. a brewers loss would really help us out, but we can't do any more than hope for that. if we win tonight we also split the series with the best team in the nl, our likely opponent if me make the playoffs. pedro will need help, we need the bats and bullpen to come through strong.
Tommorow is looking to be a huge storm. now way we play tommorow, and the phils are playin washington so either home or away they will get washed out too. now, the thing is, this storm is supposed to be SOOOOOOO huge, that it might carry over till saturday. obviously, umps would try everything in their power to play at least one on saturday. but suppoing it's impossible and we need can't do it...any neccesary one game playoffs, which are a true possibility, would have to be monday and he playoffs start wednesday and ticket sales have already started for them, meaning pushing it back is not a good option. is it possible we may wind up playing a tripleheader on sunday? it has happened before. they used to actually schedule doubleheaders and when one got rained out they'd play a tripleheader the next day. imagine that! ia tripleheader on the last day for the phillies and mets with each team neck and neck (hopefully)! think last season's final day was hectic and tense? wooo. that wold be awesome. both teams would be pitching guys on short rest and using their whole bullpens and reserves and crowds would be rockin and scoreboard watching 3 sepereate games over the course of the day...man i hope that happens just because it would be so totally crazy. not likely, but man would that be cool.
As far as I know there has only been one tripleheader ever played in the majors and it was at least back in WWII, maybe the 1920s/30s, not going to google it or something, that would be too easy. No, I don't see that being done. There's no game, including playoff games, that can't be postponed. Admission to game 1 of the playoffs is good no matter what date it happens. Look at all the games after 9/11. Getting the regular season finished up in a way that doesn't make a mockery of it is more important than racing to keep the playoffs on pace.
Submitted by sgtwarbucks on Thu, 09/25/2008 - 22:38.
They've proven they can do it in pressure situations, and now we (the FANS) need to prove that we can support them during the next three tough days!
DON'T BOO, FOR THE LOVE OF PETE!!!! START CHEERING THESE GUYS ON!!!!
I'll try to report it how i see it from Shea, and will be meeting up with Rob.
Tug Said it.....I believe it.....That settles it......
YA GOTTA BELIEVE
that is why i love baseball. you can come from the lowest of the low, a devastating loss with poor bat execution, poor bullpen, poor starting pitching and poor late game RISP execution and be down in the dumps, in a neck n' neck playoff race, and then do that. for one of the first times i can remember this season, the mets took a stand. they got angry and said "ya know what? no. this is not going to happen again". and they never gave up. amazing, isn't it, how twice we couldn't score last night with bases loaded, nobody out, and now we score 2 runs with 2 outs, nobody on, the bottom of the 8th at the bottom of our lineup. we could not afford to be 2 back to the phils and 1 (potentially) to the brewers. we had to win. and we came through. our bullpen (minus rincon's first batter) got the job done. pedro turned in an excellent game by his standards. the bats chipped in when they needed to and rallied under pressure instead of wilting under it. and oh, what a finish! huge momentum booster for the fans and the players, huge standings swing (lets hope the brewers lose) and huge win all around. way to go.
Submitted by robsafuto on Thu, 09/25/2008 - 23:54.
Milwaukee beat the Pirates tonight so the Mets remain tied for the Wild Card with Milwaukee. The Phillies were idle so the Mets move to one game back. This is a very tight race with three games to play. The Brewers end the season at home against the Cubs. The Phillies take on the Nationals. And the Mets meet Florida with an axe to grind.
I'll be at Shea on Saturday and Sunday to Shea Goodbye. Very little analysis is necessary on this one. The Mets need to sweep the Marlins. It's a very doable task. The other teams will do whatever they do but if the Mets win three there's still hope for some post-season action.
Today I was thinking that the Mets really need to make the playoffs even if the bullpen makes it difficult to advance. A playoff berth would exercise the demons of 2007 and provide some hope for 2009.
Well, the "tightrope Mets" teetered and swayed but so far have a good handle on the balance bar. The safety net is gone. It is sheer poetry that Ramon Martinez and Robinson Cancel stepped up for us last night, and that Carlos Beltran was incredibly clutch with his shot down the 1st base line to win it. He is doing a fine job at exocising any demons that may still remain around the batting box at Shea. I am still not breathing properly since holding my breath for that one. It was a win that knocked me to the floor, an emotional wreck.
We have the greatest fans in the world, to stay there in the pouring rain and will their team back from a three-run deficit. I'm glad Manuel recognizes us as being a critical piece of the force that will pull them over the line.
Come on Metsies. You can taste it. You know the Phils are nervous, they will crack the door, we've gotta be the ones to push it wide open and step right in and take the division away.
Submitted by robsafuto on Fri, 09/26/2008 - 19:01.
It's really funny that the Mets have gotten so many big hits from guys like Fernando Tatis (really miss him now), Damion Easley and now Cancel and Martinez. For all the big dollar acquisitions that Omar Minaya has made (some good, some bad), Omar has made some good calls on veterans that others left to the scrap heap.
vs. 
Just Like The Old Days
Back in the day (the mid-80s for example) when there were two divisions in the National League late season games against the Cubs typically meant something. I remember the Mets clinching the NL East on Sept. 17, 1986 (Yes I was there!) by beating the Cubbies.
When the divisions were expanded and the Cubs ended up in the Central division the Mets-Cubs rivalry ended and the Mets-Braves rivalry began. Well, it's been a long time coming but the Cubs are standing in the way of a Mets playoff berth once again. It's different this time because the Cubs have their division locked up and these games are just a precursor to the playoffs for them.
The Mets need to excel in this series (at least 3 of 4 wins) if they want to have a chance at a playoff spot. The Mets need to win at least five of the next seven if they want to extend the life of Shea Stadium (and the hopes of the fans) past next Sunday.
Grand Slam by the Pitcher
Are you kidding me......???
I know that Johan gave one up this year to Seattle's pitcher (i was at Shea to witness THAT debacle) but of all the games and series of the year we didn't just need that one!
i'm not on the edge of a building, but i'm heading toward the elevator!
Tug Said it.....I believe it.....That settles it......
YA GOTTA BELIEVE
Oh So Bad
That one hit me like a shot to the gut.
Bad luck
Yeah, I was at last nights game and the Seattle game! Ugh!
Banned
You are hereby banned from attending games at Shea Stadium if there is a possibility that the opposing pitcher will come to the plate ;)
Anybody else got heart pains?
Watching tonight's game i said to my wife "This game gives me agita", to which she replied "Then why do you watch it?"
Anybody got a snappy comeback that i could use? By the way, she's a Tigers fan....
Tug Said it.....I believe it.....That settles it......
YA GOTTA BELIEVE
OH LORD HERE WE GO AGAIN!
Anybody care to talk me off the ledge? I'm off the rest of the week, in anticipation of going to Shea with my buddy, meeting up with Rob and hoping that we see at least a Mets game that really means something! Even the weather looks to mess that up!!
After tonight's tough loss, we have to look at the statistics and the odds of the Mets even making the post season. Tied with the Brewers for the Wild Card, still 1.5 games behind the Phillies for the Division title. The team gave away the game, and quite possibly the season tonight.
That being said.....anybody...help?
Tug Said it.....I believe it.....That settles it......
YA GOTTA BELIEVE
Yep, hard to believe
When you've got a runner at 3rd and Wright, Delgado and Beltran to follow, you'd think it would be impossible NOT to score. This team continues to amaze in the number of ways it keeps losing the "unloseable" games.
That was a real heartbreaker. Still, this team has bounced back from some really bad losses this year. Let's hope they come back fired up tomorrow.
Some obnoxious phillies fan is ALREADY harrassing me....
i am sitting in study hall in philly and i am having deja vu. the season isn't over yet, but losses like last night make it tough for me to think we have a chance. in the 7th, 8th, AND 9th inning we had a combined 6 runners in scoring position. in each of those innig swe had a guy on third with no outs. and in all those 3 innigns combined we scored one run. that is up there with all the numerous terrible losses we've had this season. absolutely awful. if we miss the playoffs by 1 game, i will absolutely hang myself. we have about a dozen games (stone cold serious, no exaggeration) which were nightnmarish losses we seemed to have well in hand. please pedro, be the younger version tonight and not the only mets starting pitcher who hasn't done great this year.
Lets hope this is NOT Pedro's last start for the mets...
I was about to type "Pedro's last start as a met" in the title feild, but then i realized i was assuming we would miss the playoffs. shows how much confidence the past 2 weeks have given me, doesn't it? but regardless, i can't see the mets re-signing pedro after this year with the injuries and struggles he's had. he is our aldest and worst starting pitcher and it's time we tested the market and/or tried out a young arm. that's hwo we got pelfrey and maine, by spot starting a young guy, and perhaps it's niese's time to shine next year. unless pedro looks great in this game AND HIS PLAYOFF STARTS the mets should not resign him.
and boy is this game huge. playing the red hot cubs with the red hot harden in a nigh the phillies are off. win here and we are just a game back from the phillies. for the first time in a while, we have SOLE control of whether we move up in the standings or not. a brewers loss would really help us out, but we can't do any more than hope for that. if we win tonight we also split the series with the best team in the nl, our likely opponent if me make the playoffs. pedro will need help, we need the bats and bullpen to come through strong.
About the rain...
Tommorow is looking to be a huge storm. now way we play tommorow, and the phils are playin washington so either home or away they will get washed out too. now, the thing is, this storm is supposed to be SOOOOOOO huge, that it might carry over till saturday. obviously, umps would try everything in their power to play at least one on saturday. but suppoing it's impossible and we need can't do it...any neccesary one game playoffs, which are a true possibility, would have to be monday and he playoffs start wednesday and ticket sales have already started for them, meaning pushing it back is not a good option. is it possible we may wind up playing a tripleheader on sunday? it has happened before. they used to actually schedule doubleheaders and when one got rained out they'd play a tripleheader the next day. imagine that! ia tripleheader on the last day for the phillies and mets with each team neck and neck (hopefully)! think last season's final day was hectic and tense? wooo. that wold be awesome. both teams would be pitching guys on short rest and using their whole bullpens and reserves and crowds would be rockin and scoreboard watching 3 sepereate games over the course of the day...man i hope that happens just because it would be so totally crazy. not likely, but man would that be cool.
tripleheaders
As far as I know there has only been one tripleheader ever played in the majors and it was at least back in WWII, maybe the 1920s/30s, not going to google it or something, that would be too easy. No, I don't see that being done. There's no game, including playoff games, that can't be postponed. Admission to game 1 of the playoffs is good no matter what date it happens. Look at all the games after 9/11. Getting the regular season finished up in a way that doesn't make a mockery of it is more important than racing to keep the playoffs on pace.
someone's gotta say it
So I will. NOW Wright can drive in a runner from 3B, down 2-0 in the 1st. Ugh.
Hoffpauir???
Who is this Hoffpauir??? Jeez, always the no-names killing ua.
again
WHY are we pitching to this guy???
quote
"Never mind." - Emily Littella
The Mets Win, The Mets Win
They've proven they can do it in pressure situations, and now we (the FANS) need to prove that we can support them during the next three tough days!
DON'T BOO, FOR THE LOVE OF PETE!!!! START CHEERING THESE GUYS ON!!!!
I'll try to report it how i see it from Shea, and will be meeting up with Rob.
Tug Said it.....I believe it.....That settles it......
YA GOTTA BELIEVE
HUGE win.
that is why i love baseball. you can come from the lowest of the low, a devastating loss with poor bat execution, poor bullpen, poor starting pitching and poor late game RISP execution and be down in the dumps, in a neck n' neck playoff race, and then do that. for one of the first times i can remember this season, the mets took a stand. they got angry and said "ya know what? no. this is not going to happen again". and they never gave up. amazing, isn't it, how twice we couldn't score last night with bases loaded, nobody out, and now we score 2 runs with 2 outs, nobody on, the bottom of the 8th at the bottom of our lineup. we could not afford to be 2 back to the phils and 1 (potentially) to the brewers. we had to win. and we came through. our bullpen (minus rincon's first batter) got the job done. pedro turned in an excellent game by his standards. the bats chipped in when they needed to and rallied under pressure instead of wilting under it. and oh, what a finish! huge momentum booster for the fans and the players, huge standings swing (lets hope the brewers lose) and huge win all around. way to go.
LETS GO METS!
Very Tight Race
Milwaukee beat the Pirates tonight so the Mets remain tied for the Wild Card with Milwaukee. The Phillies were idle so the Mets move to one game back. This is a very tight race with three games to play. The Brewers end the season at home against the Cubs. The Phillies take on the Nationals. And the Mets meet Florida with an axe to grind.
I'll be at Shea on Saturday and Sunday to Shea Goodbye. Very little analysis is necessary on this one. The Mets need to sweep the Marlins. It's a very doable task. The other teams will do whatever they do but if the Mets win three there's still hope for some post-season action.
Today I was thinking that the Mets really need to make the playoffs even if the bullpen makes it difficult to advance. A playoff berth would exercise the demons of 2007 and provide some hope for 2009.
A September To Remember
Well, the "tightrope Mets" teetered and swayed but so far have a good handle on the balance bar. The safety net is gone. It is sheer poetry that Ramon Martinez and Robinson Cancel stepped up for us last night, and that Carlos Beltran was incredibly clutch with his shot down the 1st base line to win it. He is doing a fine job at exocising any demons that may still remain around the batting box at Shea. I am still not breathing properly since holding my breath for that one. It was a win that knocked me to the floor, an emotional wreck.
We have the greatest fans in the world, to stay there in the pouring rain and will their team back from a three-run deficit. I'm glad Manuel recognizes us as being a critical piece of the force that will pull them over the line.
Come on Metsies. You can taste it. You know the Phils are nervous, they will crack the door, we've gotta be the ones to push it wide open and step right in and take the division away.
Surprising Contributions
It's really funny that the Mets have gotten so many big hits from guys like Fernando Tatis (really miss him now), Damion Easley and now Cancel and Martinez. For all the big dollar acquisitions that Omar Minaya has made (some good, some bad), Omar has made some good calls on veterans that others left to the scrap heap.
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